hey david, thanks for all your help, i just wanted to let u know my sunbird sold today, so if you could take my add down that would be great, i didnt get alot for it only 750, but i think i only paid 600 for it, and got to sail it a few years, so i did ok all in all, thanks again, i hope youu and your wife are well, have a good weekend,, peace,dennis
White Pine, Tennessee